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The only reason I still play Mario Maker 1 sometimes is because the Wii U GamePad is just way more comfortable to hold than my switch.

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You make a very compelling argument. Now I feel kinda ripped off for buying MM2. Also, requiring a Nintendo online subscription to access most of the game's content suuuuucks...

so you're basically saying that SMM is better just because of Kaizo techs, and forgot what SMM2 brought into the game. honestly the title should've been "A Retrospective of SMM"

Very specific and useless but I remember back when I first got MM2 really missing being able to place certain objects over the top of each other, like pipes. I was also so angry when I found out they got rid of the fly minigame, because for some reason I really liked playing it back then.

I'm a casual player and don't play Kaizo but even I think 1 is better than 2. 2 basically lost all the charm the previous game had, from the title screen interactions to the random death sounds, weird Mario, Amiibo costumes, the old behavior of big Mario giving the ennemies different looks and most importantly, the bookmark, SMM2 just feels bland and uninterresting and even the multiplayer can't redeem it with how laggy the online is.

bro wanna be different sooooooo bad

Maybe we can get the perfect maker experience in SMM3

I could see nintendo making an advertisement for mario maker 3 saying "you like mario maker 1? You like the new in mario maker 2? Mario maker 1 + 2 = 3, the best of both worlds."

Honestly, I can forgive all the kaizo changes. I can even forgive the lack of 100-man and amiibo costumes. But MM1 will always stand wayyy far above 2 for me because of simple QoL. 2 is a chore to make levels in and just less fun to experiment with when you have to handle every individual element with a controller. It's not just that the touch screen was intuitive to Mario Maker, it was literally vital to the experience. Like, I played MM1 for the first time in years not long ago, and I realized I'd forgotten how it felt to _relax_ while using the course designer. That's how much 2 exhausted me. I can't see myself playing a third entry unless they can somehow bring this element back.

Finally someone else said it

The Flyes mini game in SMM1, the different noises when mario falls into a pit, the bigger ennemies you could make on the thumbnail by giving a mishroom to an already big ennemy and saving the level before it expulses the mushroom, the easter egg when you knock on the doors many times, the way the algorythm was working, the absence of those useless refreshing levels, the many glitches, the physics overall... So many little details that made SMM1 unique and gave it a soul SMM2 doesnt have

I'd say Mario Maker 1 had more personality and charm whereas Mario Maker 2 had more features but felt dull due to all the fuckery Nintendo did to it by removing and changing things.

I was happy with Maker 1 until it stopped working. I miss Maker.

Creating levels just isn't half as fun without the Wii U gamepad and stylus. + Old ui really hinted at your imagination

The main reason I didn't like SMM2 was that the main allure forces you to pay for a subscription to even reliably play the game! (Cause the campaign sucks for replayability)

the sole reason mario maker 2 is collecting dust on my switch is nintendo switch online

Agreed. I was one of the people defending GameXplain's review saying it was good but a bit disappointing sequel. Old one had better charm, modes, controls, and a bunch of cool stuff the new one doesn't: especially downloading levels to see how they work. Which was half the fun for me as a casual player. They should've at least left the option for creators to choose if you could download their level like Little Big Planet 1-2. I think a lot of non-Wii U players don't consider the prequel games could be better. I feel the same about Splatoon 1. Honestly Little Big Planet is the better franchise and does the whole level editor thing way better than Mario Maker. I still really like both Mario Maker games but they could learn a lot from them. Even getting up to parity with the 2008 Little Big Planet in terms of online customizability/multiplayer would be a jump worth two sequels of Mario Maker games.

The way I see it, Mario Maker 2 is the better Game in terms of editor and casual players like me (I really don‘t care for any of the advanced techs) but the original had a lot more charm and ideas that were missing in the Sequel. I guess this was another case of Nintendo trying to make everything as „clean“ as possible during the Switch era. As for the Amiibo costumes, I assume they just didn‘t feel like trying to get the 3rd party licenses back in the Sequel (and not to mention the other crossover things that couldn‘t even be unlocked trough Amiibos). Also Endless and the 100 Challenge should have definitely been two separate modes!

It's a Nintendo tradition to take any unexpected glitches or other unexpectedly fun features and remove them in future games because you will only have the fun we allow you to have, stupid Gaijin.

I agree with you, though I feel like my opinion is pretty well carried by nostalgia.

Maker 2 feels more, professional I guess? Idk maker 1 was just much more silly and had to many Easter eggs and I loved it but you don’t really see the same in maker 2.

THE BETTER GAME WILL NEVER DIE

they stripped everything that made mario maker special

Very nice summary! I remember being so excited when smm2 was released. I played it for a week before dropping it and I havent touched it since. The new content was amazing but everthing else was extremely disappointing...

I missed ceave gaming

nice video now finish the history of smm1 hardest levels

Part Three?!!?!?!

I had to fact check cause no way its been 5 months, but it has

Would love to see the Mario Maker 2 changes, the 2 games are my #1 and #2 favorite video games of all time

I'm sure Nintendo was VERY concerned about plagiarism given that they stole MM1 level ideas to use in MM2.

One question: Is the 100 mario challenge still playable in 2024? I wanna get the Wii U and the game but I wanna know.

Great video. And yes, make also the what MM2 got right video!

Item spinjumping missing in smw and groudpounds not giving any extra height were the first changes I noticed on the day I got the game in the first week of release. I own the game but I never really played it much. A lot of stuff just felt off to me, especially the editor

I've played through 2D Mario games since the first one, and Mario Maker 2 had the worst-feeling physics of the entire franchise. It's not tight and snappy like SMW; instead I found it felt laggy and slow like an ice level. So I stopped playing it after just a few days. Fun to watch, but not fun to actually play.

The 2 biggest downgrades in MM2: Levels can't be viewed/edited any more, and it requires a paid subscription. MM1 cost $60 for its entire life span... but MM2 is $160 and still rising.

b-b-b-b-b-but s-s-slopes

we don't need mario maker 3, we need mario maker 1 2

Charisma and the bugs on SMM were legendary also the hit boxes from spikes are horrible.

This video exactly answers a question I had, thank you!

actually the wii mote thing is busted... if you hold an item you can just press the spinjump button to make a super small jump

Just a reminder that mario maker 2 also has elements that only appear in story mode and can't be used at all in custom levels

I hope that if they are going to make a mario maker 3 it combes the variety of mario maker 2's sandbox with mario maker 1's everything else.

The main thing I hate about Mario Maker 2 is having to pay for the Nintendo online to actually play most of the game. And there is no way I am paying for that.

It baffles me that the bookmark site's functionality didn't get replicated in the Switch Online app. I also think Endless Challenge would have benefited from the option to continue attempting the level you lost your last life to. Not only would this allow runs to end on a win rather than death, it could also offer a kind of tiebreaker for people who beat the same number of levels, where whoever took the fewest extra attempts to clear their final level would come out on top.

I agree with all the points in the video. I Talk a lot about those things in my streams as well. People like MM2 and I can understand why. So here is your perfect game: - take the physics from MM1 like it was (good P-Switches for example, Phantom jumps and so on) - take the hitboxes from MM1 (for the old items) - add Editor and bookmark again … why nintendo… - Just add 100 man but keep the endless as well cause why Not - bring Back all the stuff from mm1 (costumes, lanky. …) - keep all the stuff from mm2 (slopes, new items, Level styles, 3D World, Power ups …,) - I actually like the timer from MM2 More i dont know why tho. Just a feeling - keep all the new content which was Not in MM1 because it’s great For a new MM3 - add SMW Rom Hack Game style - make new items BUT -> add DLC lets say 2€ for a new item every month -> new costume with Maybe abilities lets say 5€ To pay -> new semi solids for Maybe 2€ accessable every 3 month Here Nintendo is your Money making machine. You Just have to think more about it. There are countless possibilities. I Just mentioned a couple. Just do 1 thing Right and give us the game we want. For what I mentioned I probably would even buy a new console + 69€(nice) for the game. And probably buy everything gameplay related available

Never played MM1, but I watched a lot of content on it from Ryu and Dashie mostly. I can understand how frustrating physics & tech changes are (tons of Fall Guys Kaizos have been broken or cheezable due to updates), but the thing that stands out the most is the removal of 100-man. It was just far better for content creators. The stakes to reward ratio was much more balanced, and seeing creators finish a level 6 kaizo with <5 lives left was so fun to watch. I find it hard to care enough about a 30-man endless run, as 1 awful troll level could easily end it, and even if you make it to level 6+ you'll just eventually lose. It feels pointless as much as it is endless (for viewing content). If there's a MM3 I pray they bring back 100-man. So much better as a viewing experience.

This video rocks so much. Just super interesting commentary, voice and video editing. Keep up the great work, this is so good.